CITY COUNCIL MEETING

October 26, 2000

 

Crafty says: Good evening all, Tamzilla and I would like to welcome you all

Tamzilla bows gracefully.

Crafty says: First the rules, if we could keep the emotes to a bare minimum it

will sincerely help matters.

Stile says: lag?

Crafty says: Next, if you would raise your hand, you can then be recognized

and can address the group as a whole.

Wulfgar arrives in a puff of smoke.

Shariz arrives.

Wulfgar bows gracefully.

Shariz sits down.

Stile raises his hand

Nalina hugs Wulfgar.

Dragonight soars in.

Wulfgar hugs Nalina.

Wulfgar sits down.

Dragonight sits down.

Stile waves his hand around frantically

Crafty says: First I would like to mention something and then I'll recognize

Stile, okay?

Stile says: k.. nevermind :)

Crafty says: As some of you may know the last meeting we had involved some

great role playing at the end...

Crafty says: In fairness to the other clans, we invited them to do the same at

our next cc meeting...

Tamzilla smiles.

Crafty says: We did not have any responses but I wanted all of you to know

that the offer was made and is still standing should any of the clans

desire to do that in the future.

Stile didnt get the notice.. but okay...

Alien raises his hand.

Crafty says: If they do, they can simply mud mail the council using the

#council group mail...

Tamzilla crackles: I believe the mail was sent to clan leaders, Stile.

Nalina raises her hand.

Stile nods solemnly.

Stile raise his hand

Crafty says: Nalina, please take the floor

Alien raises his hand.

Nalina says: what about leaders that haven't been on in 5 weeks?

Crafty says: All clan leaders are welcome to notify the council and we can set

something up.

Doppleganger arrives.

Stile nods

Crafty says: Please feel free to notify your clan leader personally and tell

them of your interest in taking part...

Nalina nods solemnly.

Nalina says: thank ye

Stile raises his hand

Doppleganger sits down.

Doppleganger kisses Nalina.

Crafty says: Alien, please take the floor

Alien stands up

Rpglord raises his hand.

Stile nods solemnly.

Alien rumbles: I just wanna say that Alien shall continue to not align with

anyone, but support or fight evil or good, or any other sides, as the

whim strikes him, depending on mood, phase of the moon, or whatever he

had from breakfast, as Alien sits back down.

Alien rumbles: as befits all good Geminis

Crafty says: Thank you Alien, Stile you may have the floor.

Tamzilla chuckles.

Stile stands up and promptly falls on his face

Stile says: k... 2 small things..

Stile says: 1. i just wanted to thank the present members of blackstone for

having made the last few weeks interesting...

Stile says: annoying at times... but interesting :)

Stile bows gracefully.

Tamzilla grins mischievously.

Stile says: 2. i wanted to see what the rp memebs at large thought abut the

possibility of a second contact as far as clans go...

Stile says: in situations where leaders have not been on in long periods..

Tamzilla nods.

Stile says: their only responsibility being that of say organization of

_small_ clan events

Stile crawls back to his seat

Tamzilla crackles: very good point Stile

Tamzilla crackles: I know that many ppl have been frustrated over that same

thing.

Alien nods solemnly.

Nalina nods solemnly.

Tamzilla crackles: as what to about it, Im at a loss.

Tamzilla crackles: in all honesty

Tamzilla crackles: any ideas?

Ayla raises her hand

Tamzilla crackles: Ayla :)

Crafty says: Ayla you may have the floor

Ayla says: Thank you Tam and Crafty

Stile says: just give it back later :)_

Tamzilla grins.

Ayla says: All clans used to have a second in command for that very reason, I

don't know if they still do or not tho.

Tamzilla nods solemnly.

Ayla says: I am finished now

Alien raises his hand.

Rpglord raises his hand.

Crafty says: Alien, the floor is yours

Alien rumbles: maybe have a way for clan members to elect someone, temporary

or permanent, if the leader is AWOL

Stile nods solemnly.

Tamzilla crackles: not a bad idea..im not sure how that would be done, but im

sure the wizards in each clan would know.

Gku arrives.

Myst arrives.

Myst sits down.

Crafty says: Rpglord, you may have the floor

Rpglord stands up.

Rpglord crackles: Thank you Crafty and Tam

Gku stands up.

Gku says: hmph

Gku sits down.

Gku giggles.

Rpglord crackles: Lately we've been having some problems with some people on

the MUD. In particular, Ifreet.

Stile nods solemnly.

Crafty says: Yes, that has come to our attention

Manami crackles: agree

Wulfgar raises his hand.

Rpglord crackles: He's been harassing characters (Lianda in particular) and

askin for quest help repeatedly.

Gku says: i dont like him he is meen and insane

Tamzilla nods solemnly.

Crafty says: I believe that Lianda will be mud mailing a log to X

Rpglord nogs noggingly.

Manami crackles: mostly asking about quest stuff and bothering tasha

Gku says: yep

Crafty says: The City Council will also make the high council aware of the

concern by all of you as to his behavior

Gku says: im not no newbie

Tamzilla crackles: A reminder, if you have any problems with any player, its

best to have a log of what happened, and mudmail #law about it

Rpglord crackles: I hold a personal grudge against hi just because of what he

said to Lianda

Nalina whispers something to Gku

Gku growls he is evil.

Rpglord groans loudly.

Rpglord crackles: It appears that Ifreet is here

Rpglord points his finger at Gku.

Rpglord blushes.

Nalina raises her hand.

Rpglord crackles: Woops, my bad :) Sorry

Gku says: im not

Gku says: hehe

Rpglord shrugs helplessly.

Rpglord crackles: That's all

Rpglord sits down.

Crafty says: Wulfgar the floor is yours

Gku says: ok

Wulfgar says: thanks Crafty, et. al.

Gku grins evily.

Gku stands up.

Gku leaves south.

Wulfgar says: in a related point, when we do have players on like Ifreet, the

rest of us need to watch our actions towards them.

Tamzilla nods solemnly.

Wulfgar says: it does no good if we do to them what they are doing in the

first place.

Gku arrives.

Alien rumbles: aw man, I can't trick them into logging off?

Rpglord snickers.

Wulfgar says: I think that ignoring them (go nochat) will make quiet them

quicker.

Gku sits down.

Wulfgar sits back down.

Crafty says: That has always been my way of handling it.

Tamzilla crackles: Dont let anyone person irritate you to the point that you

end up getting tossed in jail with them

Tamzilla crackles: agreed

Gku grins very very evily.

Stile smiles at Alien happily.

Gku bows gracefully.

Gku says: im bowing sitting hehe

Crafty says: I understand that we might like to have Tasha back as Sheriff,

she was definitely on more often

Gku says: ya wooohoo

Crafty says: However, X will make a good sheriff as well. We may have to

begin to police ourselves and each other more than we used to.

Stile says: brb...

Stile stands up.

Stile flies off home.

Crafty says: Nalina, the floor is yours...

Nalina says: thank you

Nalina says: Wulfie said most for me

Nalina says: but as for the Ifreet situation

Nalina says: just go nochat, and if he sends you tells that are disturbing,

log a last tell, and sed it to X

Tamzilla nods in agreement.

Gku says: say does ifreet have icq i could send stuff and bobard him with get

out of rag stuff???

Nalina says: that's basically it, thanks

> Alien rumbles: AKA...don;t feed the trolls?

(Rpglord rais his hand)

Nalina says: basically, just ignore him, use other channels

Rpglord raises his hand.

Nalina says: you can still chatter

Stile rides in silently on the back of a beautifully colored phoenix.

Crafty says: Rpglord, please take the floor

Rpglord stands up.

Rpglord crackles: How exactly do you log a tell? Or chat for that matter

Crafty says: It depends on the client that you use...

Rpglord crackles: CRT 3.0

Tamzilla crackles: Havent heard of that..

Tamzilla crackles: but

Crafty says: I use Zmud so I really only know how to do it there...

Rpglord nogs noggingly.

Alien rumbles: crt you can cut and paste

Tamzilla crackles: you could even copy and paste it into a text file and save

it that way

Crafty says: Does anyone else use CRT 3.0?

Alien rumbles: I used to

Alien rumbles: it does have a logging function, would have to run it again to

remember it though

Crafty says: Alien could you possibly teach Rpglord how to use that feature?

Alien nods solemnly.

(Shariz raise fund)

Crafty says: Thank you very much...

Shariz giggles.

Rpglord sits down.

Crafty says: Does anyone else have anything to share on this subject?

(Shariz raises her hand)

Doppleganger raises hand

Crafty says: Shariz, the floor is yours.

Shariz says: I feel that personal logs are not very reliable

Crafty says: Why not?

Shariz says: whilst I think that the majority of people would be honest, it

still is open to abuse

Alien raises his hand to address that point.

Shariz says: I would be more happy if the game itself would log

Crafty says: Unfortunately that it true, I think that we must believe in each

other to uphold the honesty code here on Ragnarok.

(Shariz sit down)

Gku stands up.

Crafty says: Yes, Alien?

Alien stands up.

Gku sits down.

Tamzilla crackles: we can mention that to the HC, Shariz..im not sure how much

of the game is logged.

Wulfgar raises his hand.

Stile says: a _verY- fair amount of the game is logged

Stile nods solemnly.

Alien rumbles: while it is true that I can create a log that has Crafty saying

anything I want, if Rpglord and Tamzilla submit the same log, I probable

did not make it up, likewise...

Shariz says: perhaps just a way of logging last tell/last chat if needed

Gku says: i have a idea

Shariz says: that way their is prove beyond doubt

Alien rumbles: if three or four people send similar logs...IE...asking for

quest help at different times...then the person is probably asking for

quest help, and there is not a "vast right wing consipracy" in play

Crafty says: Gku, please raise your hand to be recognized...

Alien sits back down.

Gku says: nm i would not happen

Nalina raises her hand.

Crafty says: Yes Nalina, do you have something to add?

Nalina says: yes

Myst raises his hand.

Crafty says: The floor is then yours Nalina.

Nalina says: as far as i know, last chat exists pretty much till it's clear by

a wizzie or reboot, or when it can't access anymore

Nalina says: if a wizzie pops on, why not tell them to review it?

Cynthia raises her hand

Crafty says: That has generally been my game plan

Tamzilla nods.

Nalina says: i don't know if they can justify a snoop for the tells or not

Shariz nods solemnly.

Stile says: last chat has a limit of appx 50 mesg...

Crafty says: It has always worked for me, that way it can be reviewed and

taken care of at that time...

Nalina says: but that would eliminate possible falseness

Cynthia says: from what ive heard it only contains the last 99 messages

Nalina says: we just need to see what we can and can't do

(Gku raise hand)

Nalina says: and work with it

Nalina says: i'm done

Tamzilla crackles: yep, exactly

Ayla says: Wizzes can put logs in their codes but that takes alot of memory

from the driver, thats one of the lag producers and its not encouraged.

(Gku raises his hand)

Stile nods solemnly.

Crafty says: Gku, you may have the floor

Tamzilla crackles: we'll talk to the HC about it and see what can/cant be

done

Doppleganger coughs noisily.

Gku stands up.

Gku says: could we perhaps bad ifreet???

Alien calls for a translation.

Crafty says: Bad Ifreet? What do you mean?

Stile nods solemnly.

Gku says: oops band

Tamzilla scratches her head.

Crafty says: Ban?

Gku says: from the game???

Rpglord crackles: you mean ban?

Stile gives gku a violen

Stile says: you want a tuba instead

Doppleganger laughs hysterically.

Crafty says: Yes that can be done, Ayla would you like to address that

quickly?

Gku says: i play trupet and piano thank you

Gku says: and computer

Nalina says: stay on topic kids

Stile nods solemnly.

Stile raises his hand

Gku says: im done

Gku sits down.

Stile says: if ayla don't i can field it...

Manami sits down.

Ayla says: I belive that the first punishment would be jail

Manami tosses a blanket into the air, holding two corners..

it settles perfectly onto the ground!

Doppleganger hugs Manami.

Manami stands up.

Manami picks a soft place on the blanket and has a seat.

Alien stands up.

Ayla says: Then after another infraction he might be banned

Alien sits on blanket.

Tamzilla nods.

Crafty says: Thank you Ayla. Doppleganger, the floor is yours.

Doppleganger stands up.

Ayla says: Your welcome

Doppleganger says: thank you Crafty and Council

Doppleganger says: i have had a problem with experience theft

Gku grins evily.

Crafty says: Experience theft?

Doppleganger says: someone makes themselves invisible and comies into the room

you are in fighting with a monster and ingauges in the fight and then

leaves

Tamzilla crackles: oh dear

Nalina says: oy

Doppleganger says: i have had this happen to me more than twice now

Cynthia says: maybe the mob was agres?

Gku says: mwahahhahah

Doppleganger says: I told tasha of it and she told me experience stealing is

not illegal

Gku says: sorry not laghing at you thinking of black mailing ifreet

Crafty says: Can you tell us, if you remember, what monster or monsters it

way?

Gku says: hmmmmm what next

Doppleganger says: it happened on Alameth and it happened on Master Samuel

Doppleganger says: and a guard in Terril i believe

Gku hugs Stile.

Crafty says: Neither of which are auto attackers.

Crafty says: What are peoples reactions to this?

Tamzilla crackles: do you have any idea who "someone" was?

Alien raises his hand.

Doppleganger says: I have no clue I wish I did though

Cynthia says: wulfgar had a point..agres cant attack an invis till it is

attacked

Crafty says: Alien...

Alien stands.

Tamzilla crackles: we've had a similar problem before..I know there is no rule

against, its just frowned upon.

Cynthia says: sorry to raise that problem

Myst says: Seems unfair, although it is not against the rules. I believe a

player should know who is stealing his/her experience from them, so they

can personally confront the criminal...

Crafty says: During this discussion time, the floor is open, the next new

topic will be given to Wulfgar...

(Gku slashes slien with his holy sword of fire and lepercon magig)

Alien rumbles: I've seen this problem on another mud...basically...you can;t

outlaw being a jackass. All we coul come up with was a "claim marker"

that let people know YOU were fighting the monster. If they still choose

to attack it..therAlien rumbles: there is not much you can do

Alien sits back down.

Crafty says: Has it happened to anyone else lately?

Nalina shakes her head.

Wulfgar shrugs helplessly.

Rpglord shakes his head.

Tamzilla crackles: The best advice I can give to anyone that this happens to

is to inform the law dept. Sadly, there really isnt much else that can be

done. Unless you have concrete proof.

Manami shakes her head.

Stile raises his hand

Myst says: It has never happened to me.

Cynthia shakes her head.

Wulfgar says: I couldn't tell you... don't play a lot of attention to the exp

I grab from a fight.

Doppleganger picks a soft place on the blanket and has a seat.

Nalina says: i've been in Museum with Wulfie when Dopps is on

Cynthia says: havent been hunting in a long time

Shariz says: you might want to try the whereis command if you have a rough

idea who it may be

Manami glares at Doppleganger.

Stile nods solemnly.

Crafty says: Stile?

Stile stands

Ayla says: The law really can't do anything about it tho.

Stile says: one simple suggestion...

(Gku curses loudly in anger for cursing gku off from alien)

Yoshi arrives.

Gku spits on the ground.

Yoshi sits down.

Gku spits on the ground on alien.

Gku kicks Alien.

Tamzilla sighs deeply.

Alien watches his gag file increase by one. *plonk*.

Crafty says: Okay, outta curiousity, is Yoshi Ifreet?

Nalina says: no

Tamzilla crackles: Gku, please knock it off with the emotes, etc. We are

holding a meeting here.

Yoshi says: no

Yoshi says: im not ifreet

Nalina says: but i know who Ifreet is

Nalina says: brb

Nalina stands up.

Nalina leaves south.

Gku stands up.

Gku leaves south.

Gku arrives.

Crafty says: Stile, what what your suggestion?

Crafty says: I'm so sorry Yoshi...

Gku says: why should i stop alien told me to f!@# off

Gku says: im mad at him

Gku picks a soft place on the blanket and has a seat.

Tamzilla crackles: doh

Crafty says: Okay, where were we?

Doppleganger says: wulfgar

Cynthia says: ifreet?

Cynthia says: sorry

Crafty says: Since Stile has gone link dead, Wulfgar has the floor

Wulfgar takes his place on the soapbox.

Tamzilla grins.

Wulfgar says: ok, hate to backtrack, but about the logging.

Gku says: what other mud games does enyone else know of???

Doppleganger grins evilly.

Stile says: sorry all..

Nalina says: sorry

Wulfgar says: as for public channels, all you need to do is ask a 2nd or 3rd

person to also send last chat

Stile says: power surges are not fun....

Wulfgar says: for tells...

Wulfgar says: w/ no idea of the kind of coding... would it be posible to add a

feature in the law office/room that a player can log a copy of their last

tell.

Gku says: bye all

Rpglord cheers quietly!

Doppleganger grins evilly.

Shariz nods solemnly.

Cynthia says: one can always add something in it b4 sending it no?

Wulfgar says: no...

Nalina hiccups.

Wulfgar says: the feature would record the players last tell automatically

Cynthia nods solemnly.

Ayla raises her hand

Wulfgar says: my idea is that the player would use a command like: record last

tell or... last <channel>

Cynthia says: i thought wizards can read what was said in anyway?

Tamzilla crackles: another idea to bring to the HC..and a good one.

Wulfgar says: QED

Stile nods solemnly.

Crafty says: Ayla is this on this topic?

Ayla says: Yes

Crafty says: Then speak away

Stile coughs noisily.

Stile smiles happily.

Ayla says: The only problem with this idea, which is a good one by the way, is

the driver is slow already and that creates more for the driver to sift

thro, which in turn creates more lag.

Tamzilla crackles: yeah :/

Shariz says: why not mail it immediately to the sheriff?

Stile nods solemnly.

Ayla says: What I am trying to say if there is such a feature it will be

abused not by most people but a few, just enough to create more lag.

Crafty says: I think that mailing it to the sheriff right away is really the

best idea

Yoshi nods in agreement.

Ayla says: while I like the idea and if we had a more upto date driver it

would be great.

Wulfgar says: even if the command has to be used at the law office?

Rpglord waves.

Rpglord stands up.

Rpglord leaves south.

Cynthia raises her hand

Shariz says: also, (I hope) this does not happen to often, so hopefully his

mail won't oiverflow

Crafty says: Cynthia, you have the floor

Cynthia says: since wizards can be undetected by players

Stile nibbles on Nalina's ear.

Cynthia says: why not call in a wiz to spy on the guy when being harrassed ?

Ayla raises her hand

Crafty says: That can be done as well. Anything else on this topic?

Crafty says: Ayla, the floor for you...

Crafty says: Gee that came out wrong didn't it?

Ayla says: Only wizzies that are sage or above can snoop players, if below a

sage, we can only snoop in our own realm.

Stile nods solemnly.

Crafty says: Good to know, thanks...

Cynthia says: oh

Crafty says: I believe that Myst has the floor next... My darling it's all

yours... (Yes I have my favorites... ;)

Nalina says: can they snoop base realms?

Myst blushes and stands up.

Ayla says: No

Nalina nods solemnly.

Myst says: My only thought was that a lot of players seem to have a concern

about troublesome people

Myst says: Perhaps the High council needs to be asked about adding deputies...

Myst says: As a suggestion, perhaps we can offer either the City Council,

heroes, or players to have the responsiblity (if possible)

Cynthia says: i thought none sheriffs also have to power to jail ppl

Tamzilla nods.

Crafty says: On that topic, I have from time to time as a cc member, gently

reminded people of the rules if need be

Tamzilla crackles: Myst, thats a good idea..then we would hope that atleast

one deputy would be on at all times..or atleast most of the time

Myst says: And by adding deputies, I mean adding deputies that log on semi

regularly

Tamzilla crackles: same here

Ayla says: Elwing has been working on something for the cc so that they may

jail people, I have no idea where she stands on that at the moment tho

Cynthia shakes her head.

Stile wants to use his duct tape _so_ badly now that it works...

Myst says: OK, those are my words to say

Tuck hands are raised.

Tamzilla blinks.

Myst bows humbly in true faerie manner.

Crafty says: Okay, Tuck, floor, now...

Tuck nods solemnly.

Tuck says: regarding clans

Tuck pats Stile on the back.

Tuck says: Only clan leaders can recruit

Tuck says: the clan object is with them only

Tuck says: aedin has refused to extend this to other clan memebrs

Stile nods solemnly.

Stile says: i have no prob with that...

Tuck says: i have already had talks about this with clan people

Stile says: i'm not talking expansion... i'm talking existance...

Tuck says: and leaders

Ayla says: The clan leaders can bestow leadership on anyone of their choosing

tho.

Tuck says: however, another wiz, maybe elwing can code it

Nalina nods solemnly.

Wulfgar says: only if they log on

Tuck nods solemnly.

Tuck says: for player related madness, just mail #law with some text grabs

Stile nods solemnly.

Tuck says: it does work

Stile raises his hand

Tuck says: no need to drastic stuff

Crafty says: Yes Stile

Tamzilla nogs.

Stile says: regarding theft... and whatever else...

Stile says: notify a wizzie if it's someone invis.. we/they can see

everyone...

Stile says: as well as _where_ they are...

Tuck says: on new thing, someone needs to do wiz awards again

Nalina nods solemnly.

Stile says: a warning is all it takes...

Stile says: is it that time again?

Tuck says: it is past

Ayla says: Way past time.

Crafty says: Good suggestion Stile, Doppleganger did you get that?

Stile says: lets cut out the middle mand and just give it to aedin again :)

Ayla says: Laz was going to code the plaques, but he never got a chance to.

Stile kisses Nalina sweetly.

Ayla says: Chronos used to code them for the wizzes

Doppleganger says: yes I wil no that if it happens again Stile

Nalina blushes.

Doppleganger says: thank you

Stile nods solemnly.

Stile says: thats why i said it...

Crafty says: I am wondering if someone may just be out to get you

unfortunately...

Stile smiles happily.

Yoshi hates that.

Stile picks a soft place on the blanket and has a seat.

Wulfgar pounds a sign into the ground reading: Have you seen Carmatheon?

Stile coughs *iam* coughs

Stile smiles happily.

Stile laughs hysterically.

Crafty says: Are there anymore topics to cover?

Stile pokes Wulfgar in the ribs.

Stile raises his hand

Nalina says: i think that's it for me

Tuck says: trust me to ld when speaking about wiz

Crafty says: Stile, takem the floorem

Alien rumbles: argh! no more topics..I wanna hear the big annoucnement...or

was the clan thing it?

Stile says: i just wanna know who keeps deleting my rooms...

Crafty says: No that was not it btw...

Stile says: i code and code and code...

Crafty says: Save, save, save

Manami whispers something to Doppleganger

Stile says: and i don't get anywhere *sniffles*

Stile says: i'm done

Ayla comforts Stile.

Nalina comforts Stile.

Stile smiles happily.

Alien rumbles: code the blue demesnes

Doppleganger stands up.

Stile says: i plan on it :)

Manami stands up.

Crafty says: Okay then, if that is all, Tam has come up with a great idea...

Manami grabs the corners of the blanket, and folds them

into a neat square.

Tuck says: think larva for eg missed out on award for necromancer guild stuff

Tuck says: last quarter

Manami takes A folded-up blanket.

Manami smiles at Doppleganger happily.

Shariz nods emphatically.

Nalina nogs noggingly.

Nalina says: i soo would of voted for him

Stile says: come on zilla its 12 am here :)

Crafty says: And since she's lagging badly I'll spill the beans

Stile says: home going need to...

Tuck says: and this quarter has been well, bugger all frm wiz - esp big wiz

Stile nods solemnly.

Crafty says: We have tried in the past to have a party kill unfortunately the

party was too large to avoid major lag

Crafty says: So Tamzilla came up with the idea of doing a scavenger hunt

Cynthia says: party kill who ?

Cynthia says: b4 i forget

Crafty says: We are planning to have a player level hunt and a hero level hunt

Stile cheers excitedly!

Cynthia says: there is a party bug

Alien licks Tamzilla.

Cynthia says: cant get the qizards attention

Crafty says: The party kill was a few weeks ago and the log will be posted on

Myst's and my web page this weekend.

Doppleganger says: wb tamzilla

Crafty says: Cynthia can we talk about that in a minute?

Tamzilla crackles: thankee :>

Nalina giggles.

Tamzilla laughs.

Crafty says: Please watch the adventurers board for dates and times

Alien rumbles: dates?

Alien rumbles: I get a date?

Alien bounces around.

Alien rumbles: a blonde?

Crafty says: We will of course have prizes for those of you that are able to

complete it quickly

Crafty says: Details to follow next week

Tamzilla crackles: is gonna be mucho fun :>

Crafty says: Now, on to some sadder news.

Nalina says: sadder?

Stile nods solemnly.

Aliena arrives.

Tamzilla nods solemnly.

Alien rumbles: no sad!

Aliena sits down.

Alien licks Aliena.

Crafty says: Unfortunately Audric and Elena are unable to fulfill their duties

for this CC time.

Nalina says: aww

Stile says: can i speak for elena for a sec?

Doppleganger says: afk I'm sorry...

Alien rumbles: I nominate tuck

Crafty says: For that reason we will be holding an election for two new player

CC members.

Tuck says: huh?

Crafty says: Yes Stile, go ahead

Tuck shakes his head.

Stile says: k... i agree we need another vote.. and well.. my alt nominate

elena casue he was playing alot.. because she was outta work..

Stile says: so since sh'es not here to shut me up.. thank you all for keeping

her spirits up here...

Stile says: she was a bit depressed after gradution and not getting a job..

and you all helped keep her up a bit...

Alien blushes.

Stile says: and well.. now she is working and _I_ hardly see her... let alone

does she have time to come here...

Alien rumbles: we like her, she is cool

Stile says: but i can say.. for those of you that voted for her... it ment a

heck of alot....

Stile says: and i know she feels she kinda let everyone down not being here

for the mud and all...

Stile says: so from her via me... thank you :)

Crafty says: We all know that rl can sometimes affect our mud lives, it's

understandable. There are no hard feelings and we all know that Audric

and Elena fully intended to serve but things happened and now was not the

best time.

Stile nods solemnly.

Stile nods solemnly.

Tamzilla nods :).

Stile says: k.. i'm done being sappy...

Crafty says: That does not mean that we do not appreciate them and look

forward to having them back here in Rag if it works out.

Tuck says: BTW, do be a bit more helpful to newbies, been seeing a lot of joke

mode answers recently to some valid questions

Crafty says: So, if you are interested in the position or know someone who is

please mudmail Tasha and she'll take it from there.

Alien rumbles: bah

Alien rumbles: if someone asks about exiting the opera, I am gonna say walk

Crafty says: Tuck, you have obviously not seen my title for a while then...

Yarlcaver arrives.

Alien rumbles: or take a taxi if I am feeling helpful. B-) Read signs and

follow the crowd if really helpful

Crafty says: I have made it my personal goal to greet every newbie on the mud

when they come

Nalina says: and it's very hard to help them, when they don't really want the

help

Aliena rolls her eyes in disbelief.

Alien agrees with Nalina.

Wulfgar says: and some of the newbies have not been very receptive to help or

greetings

Alien agrees with Wulfgar.

Nalina says: as was a case today, that i thankfully missed

Crafty says: I think that if we all took time to remember our first few hours

on our first mud and treated them accordingly it would be a happy place.

Crafty says: Okay, enough of my crap. I know that sometimes it doesn't work

out

Alien raises his hand.

Crafty says: but when that happens, cut your losses and try again with the

next one...

Crafty says: Alien, you may borrow the floor...

Alien stands.

Alien rumbles: ok, just a quick comment about the first mud thing..and no, I

am not TRYING to be a jerk about it

Alien rumbles: on my first mud, there was a pit you could jump into to remove

your character

Tuck says: diku

Alien rumbles: it asked you five times, telling you EXPLICITLY what you were

doing, you had to answer yes you were sure 4 times, then no once to "will

you reconsider?"

Alien rumbles: some moron posted on Usenet that his character should not have

been deleted, because he did not know that was gonna happen

Alien rumbles: the admins posted back that he was a retard and not welcome

back

Alien rumbles: I went to that mud as my first mud FOR THAT REASON

Alien rumbles: I will help newbies when I have the time, and am available

Alien rumbles: please reread that...I will help NEWBIES

Crafty says: I think that that is all any of us ask...

Cynthia laughs hysterically.

Alien rumbles: utter idiots, I am sorry, I will stop helping, and most likely

taunt

Alien rumbles: that is all

Alien sits back down.

Crafty says: Please also remember that there is the new newbie area which will

give newbies weapons, armor etc.

Crafty says: Great place to send or take them

Nalina nods solemnly.

Crafty says: Anything else?

Yoshi leaves south.

Nalina raises her hand.

Crafty says: Yes Nalina...

Tamzilla crackles: nod, that way if they arent going to stay nothing is lost

Nalina says: in helping, there's a point where it turns to small abuse

Crafty says: No Wulfgar you cannot get fiz2 removed as a required quest!

Doppleganger licks Yarlcaver.

Ayla laughs hysterically.

Nalina says: they need to be learning

Wulfgar acts shocked and surprised as he says: What? Where did that come

from?

Alien raiseses his hand for ONE more thing after this.

Crafty says: Exactly, learning, so also a good idea to point them in the

direction of the NewbieSchool

Tuck says: show them around as well

Crafty says: Yes Alien...

Nalina says: but someone went through tthat yesterday

Wulfgar wonders if he fooled anyone.

Nalina says: and came out only to ask how to wield a weapon

Tamzilla laughs at Wulfgar hysterically.

Alien rumbles: ok, about newbie school, then my real suggestion

Cynthia says: bah first i came here i died because of orcs and trolls! :( and

i thought this mud was crouded by them

Alien rumbles: ask nalina just said, someone logged in today, went through the

school, graduated

Alien rumbles: first word were "How do I wield" Those people...I am gona

taunt..now a real honest suggestion...

Cynthia says: heheh seems like only 1 troll and 2 orcs after all

Cynthia grins evilly.

Nalina says: i'll help them if they're nice, but once they get grumpy at me,

forget it

Alien rumbles: can we have a gag command? Like a tellblock? I have certain

people gagged in zmud...how this works is any line with their name, I do

not see

Wulfgar says: so tell them to how to wear and wield.

Nalina says: i'm done, till i think of something else

Tuck nods solemnly.

Alien rumbles: as I just found out, this has NO effect if they send me three

lines of crap. tellblock would be wonderful

Crafty says: Okay, well I want to say on behalf of myself and Tam that this

has been a VERY productive meeting.

Tamzilla crackles: It was, and we have alot of good stuff to take to the HC

:)

Crafty says: We definitely have plenty to take to the High Council and we'll

let you know soon what we find out

Shariz smiles happily.

Alien rumbles: mention the tellblock first. B-)

Crafty says: Also, please watch the adv. board for the Scavenger Hunt

announcements...

Alien rumbles: a couple times in the middle, and close with it. B-)

Cynthia nods kewl.

Crafty says: Myst and I will try to get the logs posted on our web page soon

so you can review what happened tonite.

Crafty says: Btw, our web address is

http://www.netins.net/showcase/leithfamily

Crafty says: We have some info on monsters, weapons, items, etc

Crafty says: Okay, on that note, meeting is adjourned.

Crafty says: Now get the heck outta here and go kill EVERYTHING!